Thread: Hiding in the shadows

A long time ago i tryed to pitch an idea about adding a new race. I've been thinking since then and If figured that if any race was added it would have to be completely unique. I've decided that the only way to make a race that would keep it balenced would be to add one that utilizes an abilty that is both the easiest and most annoying to train. It would make use of others to do its dirty work. It will strike first and strike hard. May i introduce you to the Shadow They can control the mobs that populate the world and hide in the shadows - even when moving. Their power makes there first strike deadly but their low HP and defence makes the first hit the last. There armors are better adjusted for stealth than protection. There apperance makes them quite easy to miss as well - jet black with pirceing white eyes. Their reapperance is credited to an adventurer who found an odd door buried in a deep cave hidden in an unknown location. The Shadows have made it clear that they intend to reinstate their old capital - a town hidden in the underground of four falls. They also intend to find their ultimate weapon - and use it. So what do you think?

Eh, but then our clan would seem redundant. After all it is shorthand for {-SHADOW-}. A good race idea, but perhaps a bit unrefined.

Well im not done yet
Plus i only gave you a base overview

Plus the name is still up in the air

Alright, once you get it finished be sure to give the forumgoers here a shout.

Hehe, I want to introduce a race I have been thinking about all the time EA was down too. But it still needs a few more weeks.

i love seeing my name in quotes XD

Well the basics arn't going to change - High wep power low HP low defence and the ability to control mobs.

I, personally, would settle for a BLF and APF. Why should Humans be the only ones split into two?

A good point but if we did add that then they would likly have the same stuff as APM and BLM just beacause adding two more complete races is a little up there.

EA has a system where all races have the ability to learn anything, with a specific focus in a set of skills. I think if we're making a new race it should perhaps focus melee-stealth(hide), but this would require a couple of special functions for the race when holding melee weapons. Another focus could be magic.

i like sounds of stealth n all that but controlling mobs? lololol makes you wonder.. "omg theirs ppl fightin datro.. im gonna go contol him n kill them lololol"

i would control a flob and chase afex XD

Well think about being able to tell a mob EXACTLY where to shoot - only one at a time and your skill level will determine what you can control - all chars could do it but only Shodows can do it better than anyone else

A race with a magic focus would be good wouldn't it ()

then if you had 2 rely on the mob shooting and all that then it would fail from a pvp perspective. the good pvpers would take down the mob and the "shadow" with ease no mob in the game topped a decent pvper

It would be triangulation - like shooting a gun. If your mob is killed then just use your weapon.

How long could you control the mobs? Because in most common areas the mobs are pathetic, so either they would have to pvp in more distant places from the cities or have them travel all the way back. another way to get around that is to summon them. possibly the race uses the ss orbs to summon mobs rather then change into them.

I suppose that the mobs would be under your control till they died but the orb ideas osunds better - Also I've though about what the armors and weapons would look like and ive got an idea - Their stuff would be made from organic cells and therefore have an organic look but not be actual creatures.

maybe, they have a "pet" like you tame a monster that is of equal lvl to you and you can use that monster as long as you want. have a skill or item that revives/heals it when you die. you can call/dismiss the pet at your will and it will just attack anything you attack. you can also release the pet if you get sick of it n get a new one . tho the pet will lvl as you do so it will get stronger as your do...
then throw on the race itself low hp and not uber weapons. just sumtin thats not that powerfull. as they will have their pet to do majority of the dmg / taking dmg

spnk if u think about it though..this is an fps......great idea but it would be pretty hard 2 impliment.

yes aj.. as i said already

Originally Posted by Spnk

i like sounds of stealth n all that but controlling mobs? lololol makes you wonder.. "omg theirs ppl fightin datro.. im gonna go contol him n kill them lololol"

that was an attempt to dis the whole idea of controlling a mob.. tho no1 seemed to understand it.
so i added my input that if this was going to be considered thats one way of doing it.
but really you are (yes im about to say it.. 1st for everything) right it is an fps and their really is no room for a pet thingo. it would be pretty stupid anyways.. if you did wat i said in my previous post then all the person trying to kill this race has to do it dodge the pet and kill the weaker low hp "master" easy.. tho some people dont take things like it being an FPS into consideration when they come up with their fantisy races. no offence tho..
i do like the idea of a more stealthy assassin race although the frogs already are fairly small and fast learners of Hide their wings mak no sound
so what more do you need?

ye, I think that there should be races with their own abilities instead of just being able to learn the faster..
This shadow, its own type of magic, own type of weapons...stuff like that.
But - aswell as a shadow i think an air race would be sufficient..as most pvp is done in the AIR with jp's.... i think like a race that deals with air would be good. Like longer jp rate..faster - alot faster - D Guns prolly a little less stronger than Oafranack, but the upside is some of their weapons(not death) are guaranteed hit. or something like that idk..just thinkin.

Ok the pet system sucks but the summon system could have merit with some tweaking - I mean if it was to stupid to use mobs then SS would be bull crap (skills arn't only used for PvP). Anyway I like the air idea and that plus stealth with decent weapons (more power than HM but less than BL) and signature magic. I dont quite like the idea of tracking weapons - because it take away from the skill.

Edit - I'll try to have a 3D model for you guys soon.

Ok, How about we implement a Phazewalk system, like the one in Borderlands where you go invisible for a set amount of time and Backstab them with a mele weapon for extra damge, But the Phazewalk would have a cooldown time and Once you hit you go out, and when you go out you also do explosive damage.

I think maybe an item that has an invisibilty effect when armed- It would have a time limit like a JP (only lass time) and while using it you can also use weapons.

Originally Posted by Telos

EA has a system where all races have the ability to learn anything, with a specific focus in a set of skills. I think if we're making a new race it should perhaps focus melee-stealth(hide), but this would require a couple of special functions for the race when holding melee weapons. Another focus could be magic.

That sounds really cool. I've always thought that magic needed to be built upon. Used almost as a primary skill. Melee and Magic. i like it.


On another note this shadow sounds lame.

I think everyone agrees that the magic system sucks and there need to be a new one. Its ok but just not very effective, sure it can be strong but I'd rather not, one macro forever, and two go broke in the process. because I Don't macro money or skills

i just read through this and isnt controlling the mobs Mind Control, so already a skill :P

Originally Posted by Blind

I think everyone agrees that the magic system sucks and there need to be a new one. Its ok but just not very effective, sure it can be strong but I'd rather not, one macro forever, and two go broke in the process. because I Don't macro money or skills

yeah but i'm not thinking the magic system as it is now. yeah it blows and next to useless (aside from greater heal and invis). Maybe magic instead of WT/MC. or with a new race that can only do Melee/Magic. And Melee is completely useless. you can't really tank anything, you know your gonna get nailed everytime a mob shoots at you.

Maybe shield skills(magic possibly) use with Melee so it would actually be usefull.


The point is, the game as it is now is NOT great. we love it because most of us have been playing it for awhile and have come to love it. But if i had no idea what EA was i would not be impressed. Aside from the outdated graphics, the game needs alot of work. Not just band aids and quick fixes to things that don't even really matter. OR adding things that don't add to the value of the game.

I know i'm cynical... Just how i am. i dont say this to be mean or difficult. On the other hand, i'm just pointing out the obvious. If this game doesn't get a major revamp; I'm talking content, items, weapons, skills, etc... It's going to just go right under like it did the last few times.

Could you please explain how the introduction of a new race will go towards balancing things between the current races?

The new race cant attack, its "balanced."

i say we do a Flying Spagehtti monster race, All in favor???

Sure Torn why not shadow sounds stupid no offense OMGIFSM!!!!!Oh my God its a Fly spagehtti monster ahhhhh!!!HELP!

dude id rock those meatballs and all would fear me

i think we should introduce whats already there as a new race, for example take a tilidon (hope i got name right ) and make it smaller, maybe inbetween blob and HM. Change some colors up and you have a shadow. i know its horrible but i made that more for the message, bring a mob and make it a race!

i kinda like that idea, just make it get upgrades so it could attaack in differnt ways

silly torn, it would use guns like the rest of them. Its just a mob model, nothing else.

cmon make it like a hybrid ranc thats smaller guns are for BL's XD

what about those little NPCs in AK? weren't those talked about as a new possible race?

the green dudes with brown robes and hoods and red eyes with staffs?

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